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	<title>Comments on: Mother F****n&#8217; Compliance by Tim Vernon</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Humphris</title>
		<link>http://onegoldensquare.com/2009/07/mother-fn-compliance-by-tim-vernon/comment-page-1/#comment-2836</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Humphris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Jam&#039;s &quot;Beat Surrender&quot; has the line &quot;bullshit is bullshit, it just goes by different names&quot;, and it doesn&#039;t get censored for radio play. Any idea why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jam&#8217;s &#8220;Beat Surrender&#8221; has the line &#8220;bullshit is bullshit, it just goes by different names&#8221;, and it doesn&#8217;t get censored for radio play. Any idea why?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thornton</title>
		<link>http://onegoldensquare.com/2009/07/mother-fn-compliance-by-tim-vernon/comment-page-1/#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll echo PF and suggest it&#039;s all about context - and perhaps warning people when a song is about to be played which includes offensive language, and then letting them make the choice to listen or not.

Swearing in the right context is great for providing emphasis, or used imaginatively for commedy effect, and certainl Chaucer and Shakespeare weren&#039;t averse to using contraversial language now and again.

Whether it&#039;s Bill Hicks or Bikini Kill, swearing has a place in language and entertainment - but whereas I&#039;d happily swear in front of adult friends and family, I try not to in front of my young son for example (He&#039;s at the age where he&#039;s started mimicking his parents for one thing!), and I&#039;m also far more careful about my language in a public space like a supermarket than I am in the pub.

And if an artist has used language to make a point, then I&#039;d much rather have the option to hear it as originally intended than as a radio edit, even if it means only hearing it after a certain point in the evening - there&#039;s probably an argument that radio edits played on stations which attract a much younger audience will simply lead to more young people (who already use that language in conversation) seeking out the original anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo PF and suggest it&#8217;s all about context &#8211; and perhaps warning people when a song is about to be played which includes offensive language, and then letting them make the choice to listen or not.</p>
<p>Swearing in the right context is great for providing emphasis, or used imaginatively for commedy effect, and certainl Chaucer and Shakespeare weren&#8217;t averse to using contraversial language now and again.</p>
<p>Whether it&#8217;s Bill Hicks or Bikini Kill, swearing has a place in language and entertainment &#8211; but whereas I&#8217;d happily swear in front of adult friends and family, I try not to in front of my young son for example (He&#8217;s at the age where he&#8217;s started mimicking his parents for one thing!), and I&#8217;m also far more careful about my language in a public space like a supermarket than I am in the pub.</p>
<p>And if an artist has used language to make a point, then I&#8217;d much rather have the option to hear it as originally intended than as a radio edit, even if it means only hearing it after a certain point in the evening &#8211; there&#8217;s probably an argument that radio edits played on stations which attract a much younger audience will simply lead to more young people (who already use that language in conversation) seeking out the original anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: PF</title>
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		<dc:creator>PF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about context. In this case - used comedically in a great song. Gratuitous use of profane language for offensive purposes would be another matter entirely. 

Additionally at that time of night and in the context of this programme, which presumably exists to take more risks than the average Absolute show, there&#039;s no real reason to avoid it. Become a clever bastard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about context. In this case &#8211; used comedically in a great song. Gratuitous use of profane language for offensive purposes would be another matter entirely. </p>
<p>Additionally at that time of night and in the context of this programme, which presumably exists to take more risks than the average Absolute show, there&#8217;s no real reason to avoid it. Become a clever bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: Macky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m really sorry, but I have to say I JUST DON&#039;T GET swearing in music. Ok, ok, artists are expressing themselves by creating these works - but WHY must they express their feelings through profanity?

My wife and I are about to become parents, and have taken a real check on the &#039;language&#039; we use - it really highlights how inappropriate and unnecessary these words are.

I think I&#039;m old fashioned (I&#039;m 32 yrs old), but for years I have felt strongly about this. For decent, polite human beings there is no need to use this ugly manner of speech (why must Amy Winehouse use the words &quot;kept his dick wet?&quot; to convey her point? Its just unpleasant and as a form of entertainment, music&#039;s sole purpose (in general) is for pleasure is it not?

Surely someone can see my point?

I too am sick of radio edits - clean your act up music industry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m really sorry, but I have to say I JUST DON&#8217;T GET swearing in music. Ok, ok, artists are expressing themselves by creating these works &#8211; but WHY must they express their feelings through profanity?</p>
<p>My wife and I are about to become parents, and have taken a real check on the &#8216;language&#8217; we use &#8211; it really highlights how inappropriate and unnecessary these words are.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m old fashioned (I&#8217;m 32 yrs old), but for years I have felt strongly about this. For decent, polite human beings there is no need to use this ugly manner of speech (why must Amy Winehouse use the words &#8220;kept his dick wet?&#8221; to convey her point? Its just unpleasant and as a form of entertainment, music&#8217;s sole purpose (in general) is for pleasure is it not?</p>
<p>Surely someone can see my point?</p>
<p>I too am sick of radio edits &#8211; clean your act up music industry!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnily enough, I was reading this at about 1:30pm while the track &quot;I touch myself&quot; was being played on Absolute. That made me smile. I guess I, Touch and Myself aren&#039;t swearwords...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funnily enough, I was reading this at about 1:30pm while the track &#8220;I touch myself&#8221; was being played on Absolute. That made me smile. I guess I, Touch and Myself aren&#8217;t swearwords&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a no-brainer TBH Tim. You should be playing anything and everything by the Blockheads. Clearly there are going to be other tracks which take things a little closer to the wire (though personally I&#039;d love to hear Eminem&#039;s White America on the radio), but I agree with you that if TV can show just about anything it wants (with audio to match) after 9pm, then why is radio any different? Is the difference based on the fact that many children have/had radios in their rooms while they never used to have TVs? If so, the tables have completely turned haven&#039;t they!

So bring on the full uncut versions of decent (and even indecent) songs. I&#039;m sick of radio edits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a no-brainer TBH Tim. You should be playing anything and everything by the Blockheads. Clearly there are going to be other tracks which take things a little closer to the wire (though personally I&#8217;d love to hear Eminem&#8217;s White America on the radio), but I agree with you that if TV can show just about anything it wants (with audio to match) after 9pm, then why is radio any different? Is the difference based on the fact that many children have/had radios in their rooms while they never used to have TVs? If so, the tables have completely turned haven&#8217;t they!</p>
<p>So bring on the full uncut versions of decent (and even indecent) songs. I&#8217;m sick of radio edits.</p>
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		<title>By: mynameisbainsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mynameisbainsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a serious lack of swearing on radio. The more we do it, the less people will be offended...

Lets start desenitising the nation with back to back gangsta rap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a serious lack of swearing on radio. The more we do it, the less people will be offended&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets start desenitising the nation with back to back gangsta rap!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Howells</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Howells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a great record and there is no reason at all why it shouldn&#039;t be played after 9pm.  You&#039;re not CBeebies.

(Use of the word &#039;bastard&#039;, of course, is not necessarily swearing.  Ian Dury was aware of that: let&#039;s credit one of this country&#039;s best ever lyricists with more than half-an-inch of brain.)

You play Oliver&#039;s Army in daytime, which contains the word &#039;nigger&#039;.  Isn&#039;t that word on Ofcom&#039;s annual &#039;most offensive&#039; list, too?

George Michael got to number one with a song that contained the word &#039;bullshit&#039; in its first verse and it wasn&#039;t censored by any radio station I heard.  Yet the same year Alanis Morissette&#039;s &#039;chicken shit&#039; had to be faded out - and the uncensored version still can&#039;t be played more than a decade later even in the middle of the night.

And while I&#039;m not one of them, some people are offended by any blasphemy but I heard the words &#039;God&#039; and &#039;Christ&#039; regularly invoked on any number of radio stations.

I&#039;m not singling out Absolute - there&#039;s simply no consistency on this point in British radio.  It&#039;s a nonsense that there is no radio watershed.  It&#039;s frankly embarrassing that words that flow freely on ITV1 at 9pm can&#039;t be uttered occasionally at midnight on radio.

Plenty of research shows that most people don&#039;t really care about some swearing after 9pm and in context: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/17/bbc-swearing-jonathan-ross-brand is merely the latest such research.

That doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that Chubby Brown should be your new breakfast show presenter but I&#039;d like to think that a progressive radio station would be prepared to unclench its buttocks just a teensy weensy bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a great record and there is no reason at all why it shouldn&#8217;t be played after 9pm.  You&#8217;re not CBeebies.</p>
<p>(Use of the word &#8216;bastard&#8217;, of course, is not necessarily swearing.  Ian Dury was aware of that: let&#8217;s credit one of this country&#8217;s best ever lyricists with more than half-an-inch of brain.)</p>
<p>You play Oliver&#8217;s Army in daytime, which contains the word &#8216;nigger&#8217;.  Isn&#8217;t that word on Ofcom&#8217;s annual &#8216;most offensive&#8217; list, too?</p>
<p>George Michael got to number one with a song that contained the word &#8216;bullshit&#8217; in its first verse and it wasn&#8217;t censored by any radio station I heard.  Yet the same year Alanis Morissette&#8217;s &#8216;chicken shit&#8217; had to be faded out &#8211; and the uncensored version still can&#8217;t be played more than a decade later even in the middle of the night.</p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m not one of them, some people are offended by any blasphemy but I heard the words &#8216;God&#8217; and &#8216;Christ&#8217; regularly invoked on any number of radio stations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not singling out Absolute &#8211; there&#8217;s simply no consistency on this point in British radio.  It&#8217;s a nonsense that there is no radio watershed.  It&#8217;s frankly embarrassing that words that flow freely on ITV1 at 9pm can&#8217;t be uttered occasionally at midnight on radio.</p>
<p>Plenty of research shows that most people don&#8217;t really care about some swearing after 9pm and in context: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/17/bbc-swearing-jonathan-ross-brand" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/17/bbc-swearing-jonathan-ross-brand</a> is merely the latest such research.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that Chubby Brown should be your new breakfast show presenter but I&#8217;d like to think that a progressive radio station would be prepared to unclench its buttocks just a teensy weensy bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty from new yawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty from new yawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, this is a tough one and a no-win situation. 

My initial reaction was to say go ahead and play it.

However, as your initial reaction was to hold it back, I think you should stick with it.

As it takes just one asshole to complain to Ofcom to cause the station aggravation, leave it be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, this is a tough one and a no-win situation. </p>
<p>My initial reaction was to say go ahead and play it.</p>
<p>However, as your initial reaction was to hold it back, I think you should stick with it.</p>
<p>As it takes just one asshole to complain to Ofcom to cause the station aggravation, leave it be.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic Small</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all a question of balance, and as the Ofcom rules have it, context. On a sensible (well, sensible enough), &#039;adult&#039; station (not in a dirty sense), Absolute could probably play more challenging works than, say, The Hits could get away with. The audience is expecting that Absolute&#039;s chief reason for playing a song is its musical quality - as enforced in the &#039;discover real music&#039; strapline - and that whilst the station would be mindful of its obligations and regulations, it should not be cowed by them. Much of the recent research into offence/strong language (such as the recent BBC report) has stated that audiences are tolerant of strong language and offensive content if it is handled appropriately; it is excessive, gratuitous and unjustified bad behaviour that is most offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all a question of balance, and as the Ofcom rules have it, context. On a sensible (well, sensible enough), &#8216;adult&#8217; station (not in a dirty sense), Absolute could probably play more challenging works than, say, The Hits could get away with. The audience is expecting that Absolute&#8217;s chief reason for playing a song is its musical quality &#8211; as enforced in the &#8216;discover real music&#8217; strapline &#8211; and that whilst the station would be mindful of its obligations and regulations, it should not be cowed by them. Much of the recent research into offence/strong language (such as the recent BBC report) has stated that audiences are tolerant of strong language and offensive content if it is handled appropriately; it is excessive, gratuitous and unjustified bad behaviour that is most offensive.</p>
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